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FAQs

Question:

Are the Apollo Eco Series HVLP Sprayers capable of spraying Plasti Dip?  If so, what model (3, 4, 5) and needle (1.8mm, 1.5mm, etc.) size is recommended.  I would be using the system to spray both traditional automotive paint and or plasti dip rubberized paints.

Answer:

Yes, all the ECO systems will spray Plasti Dip.  Generally, most manufactures will thin the coating to a viscosity that will spray though a 3-stage turbine without any problems.  Our ECO-3 should do the job nicely.  I would recommend using a finer nozzle rather than larger as you will end up with finer results.  The E7000 spray gun comes with a 1.3mm, that should a nice job, the next size up is 1.8mm.  If you use the E7500GT spray gun, then you could use a 1.5mm, but I think the 1.3mm will do a nice job for you.

For traditional automotive paints you will definitely need a more powerful turbine.  The problem you will encounter with the ECO systems is that they are fixed pressure, so if you buy a 3 stage that will work great with the dip paints, but not so well with clear coats.  On the other hand if you buy a 5 stage, it will work nicely with the clear coats, but give you excess overspray with the dip paints.  This is where our TurboPro systems are nice as they are completely adjustable and designed to spray the clear coats with normal thinning.

The TP2000 has all the needle, nozzle and air cap combinations necessary to spray anything from Plastic Dip, Base Coats, Candies, and all Clears, just as the manufacture recommends them to be thinned.  With variable speed control and a digital pressure display you have all the power at your fingertips to be able to achieve the perfect finish with any coating every time.  You can see more of the TurboPro systems on our website at www.TurboProHVLP.com

Question:

If I purchased the ECO 3 with the e7500gto spray gun and 1.5mm needle, for the purpouse of spraying plasti dip, what cap do you recommend the standard or HS. Also which cap is shipped with the gun? Also if i wanted to use the same gun to spray automotive paints could I hook it up to a standard compressor?

Answer

We would recommend the B-HS air cap for plastic dip.  Normally the standard B Cap is shipped with the spray gun, but depending on the dealer you purchase from you may be able to get it switched out so you don’t have to purchase an additional cap.  Yes, our E7500 spray gun can connect to a standard air compressor and be used to spray auto finishes.  You will simply need a quick connect to thread into the turbine handle coupler and you will be set for compressed air.

May we suggest that you look at the TurboPro models if you want to be able to spray auto paint in addition to the plastic dip.  Not only will you get better results with the plastic dip with out TP2000, but you will also be able to use that system to spray just about any base and clear coat without the need for dirty compressed air.  You can use your turbo system to achieve much better transfer efficiency than with a compressor.

Question:

Is the ECO 5 capable of spraying dip, base, and clear? I saw a this model featured on eastwood site but no demo videos.  It is said to be configured for auto painting but I am worried about the fixed psi.  Are the TURBOPRO models you suggested variable or fixed PSI? What is the main difference with the ECO models?

Answer:

Yes,the ECO-5 can spray dip, base and most clears.  The ECO models just don’t have  a way to reduce the pressure for the dip as you won’t need all the power for the base or dip materials, only the clear.

The TurboPro 2000 is a variable speed system with digital pressure display that will enable you to be able to control the air pressure within 0.10 PSI.  This model also has a Throttle back control which enables higher pressures than the ECO systems.

The main difference in the ECO models is the size of the case, filtration, the power of the overall system and warranty.  The TurboPro systems have been specifically designed for body shop use and are capable of spraying the auto materials much better than the ECO or any other standard turbine system.  There is really nothing on the market as powerful or accurate as the TP2000.  The TP2000 comes with a 2 year + 1-year warranty if you register your warranty within 30 days of purchase.  The ECO comes with our standard 2 year warranty.

 Question:

Has plasti dip been tested effectively out of the eco 5 and if so what would be the recommended settings.  I am currently using 1.5 needle in my current gun and it seems to atomize okay.  I understand not being able to turn down the pressure would probably lead to a lot of overspray would I be able to compensate with reducing the fan pattern without negatively affecting atomization?

I would definitely be interested in the turbopro just not ready to pay that much yet.  What is the main difference between the just the turbo and turbopro?  Would you recommend the turbo over the eco series.

Answer:

We have not tested the Dip coatings with the ECO series yet, but it has plenty of power to do it, so should be a problem.  The 1.5mm will also work, but you may want to try a 1.3mm or 1.0mm to see if you get  better looking result. My feeling is you will like the coatings sprayed at a finer atomization.  You could purchase the OS control for the 7500 spray gun and that would help in reducing overspray with the more powerful motor.

The main differences in the TurboPro and the ECO is the power of the motor and filtration.  The TurboPro is made for business usinging it everyday, where as the ECO systems are designed for more occasional use.    Yes, for what you are doing we would recommend the TurboPro of the ECO, but understand that the cost is much different.  For an entry level system you will get fine results with the ECO.  It will be much better than the cheap plastic units that are generally sold for spraying the dip coatings and will spray your base and clears as well.

Question:

I think the most cost effective route is to order the eco3 with the 7500gto gun for plasti dip and hookup the gun to my compressor for standard automotive paints.  Is the only difference between the 7500c conversion gun and the 7500gto the adapter for the compressor?  If so, can I just order the connector with the 7500gto?  I couldn’t seem to find one anywhere.

Answer:

You do not need any other fittings, other than the compressed air coupler that you want to use for your compressor.  The E7500GTO spray gun that comes with the ECO-3 is a gravity only gun that already has a female 1/4″ thread up the inside of the turbine handle coupler.

This will allow you to attached the male quick connect of your choice without the need to purchase any additional parts from us.  We do not sell the compressed air connector, you will need to purchase that locally for the style of air quick connects you have on your compressor.  The connect should just screw into the end of our turbine connector.

Question:

What are the cfm/psi requirements for the 7500gto?

Answer:

You will only need about 20PSI, but the gun requires about 11CFM to work well.  You will need at 2-stage 5 HP compressor with a 60 gallon tank if you want to be able to spray a car with it.  Otherwise you will be constantly waiting for your air pressure to come back up.

Question:

Is the ECO 3 is capable of spraying any automotive paints at all? I have seen the tp showtime 90(2 stage,60 cfm@5psi), which is capable of spraying base and clears. The ECO 3 is supposedly 115cfm@7psi. On specs alone it seems like the ECO 3 is the more powerfull of the two so it would seem that if the tp showtime 90 is capable of spraying base and clears so should the ECO 3 or am i missing something?

Answer:

The TP show time will only spray base and adhesion promoter. They say it will spray clears, but you will have to reduce them way beyond what the manufactures recommend. The same is somewhat true of the ECO-3. While you do have way more power than the TP Showtime you will still not have enough to spray most clears without additional reduction. If you want to be able to spray the materials without any changes to thinning then you will need to look at our TurboPro 2000 as this is the only system on the market that will spray clears the same as a compressed air spray gun. Any other system out there will only reduce the results or orange peel.

Question

So is it possible to lay down primer and base coats with the ECO 3 or single stage paints?

Answer

The primers and base coats are usually not a problem as they are thin to begin with. Some base coats like R-M will not spray very well at all with any Turbo spray system. Most will work very nicely. Single stage paints should not be a problem either as you can thin them a little more.

Question

What about Shop-Line/PPG base and primers?

Answer

Those should work well, I know the PPG envirobase will spray without any problems. I’ve not had any problems with the PPG materials in general.

Question

Just to confirm I am talking about these being able to go through my eco 3. I have a compressor I use in my shop but like the possibility of being able to bring my ECO 3 to other locations for remote jobs?

Answer

Yes, that is correct, you will be able to spray these coatings with your ECO-3 and then use your compressor with the E7500GTO spray gun to spray your clears.